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castrosua:
Hey guys.

Ive been reading up on your forum for some time, and I love it. I speak (just read really) very little Russian (Ya chitayu paruski y bulgarski!), enough to navigate and get some general info.

I am writing a historical book about Autobuzul Bucuresti, which will contain models, history including political events that affected this industry, any Dac history would be incomplete without mentioning Chavdar. I do know quite a bit about both the Dac-Chavdar trolleybuses and the B13-20/B14-20 buses, although there is always information to find out and discover.

I would like two things to ask of you.

1. If you can reply with a link to discussions here in the forum where mention (or photos) of any Dac or Chavdars with Dac chassis appear. I did read literally every page (well, I glanced and word searched) but I did find things I missed here and there. I am gathering all the photos I can to study them since I am also re-engineering these buses in a 3D CAD program (including the Chavdar buses) so even a photo where a Dac or Chavdar is in the backgruond could be very useful. So if you come across one, I would appreciate the link to that page.

2. Bare with me, since I may post in English (although I do speak Romanian well and French fairly well, and a bit of German, and as I mentioned before, I do read but poorly Russian and Bulgarian. In a pinch, I can understand Spanish too). I will try to translate as much as I can, although this post being so long may be the worst, since I will use an online translator.

Anyway, thanks for accepting me in the forum, and if you have questions about these buses, I can answer (particularly about Dac and Roman buses).

Здравейте автобусни фенове от София,

Ya четене на вашия форум за известно време, и аз го обичам. Говоря (просто чета наистина) много малко руски (Ya chitayu paruski y bulgarski!), Достатъчно, за да навигирате и да получите някаква обща информация

Пиша историческа книга за Autobuzul Bucuresti, която ще съдържа модели, история, включително и политически събития, които засягат тази индустрия, всяка история на Dac би била непълна, без да споменава Чавдар. Знам доста за тролейбусите Dac-Chavdar и за автобусите B13-20 / B14-20, въпреки че винаги има информация, която да разберете и откриете.

Бих искал да попитам две неща:

1. Ако можете да отговорите с връзка към дискусиите във форума, където се появяват споменавания (или снимки) на Dac или Chavdars с Dac шаси. Прочетох буквално всяка страница (добре, погледнах и търсех дума), но открих неща, които ми липсваха тук и там. Събирам всички снимки, които мога да ги изуча, тъй като ре-инженеринг на тези автобуси в 3D CAD програма (включително автобусите Чавдар), така че дори една снимка, в която Дак или Чавдар е в задната част, може да бъде много полезна. Така че, ако срещнете едно, бих оценила връзката към тази страница.

2. Имайте търпение с мен, тъй като мога да публикувате на английски (въпреки че говоря добре румънски добре и френски доста добре и малко немски, и както споменах по-рано, аз чета, но лошо руски и български. Разбирам и испански). Ще се опитам да превеждам колкото мога, макар че този пост е толкова дълъг, може би най-лошият, тъй като ще използвам онлайн преводач.

Благодарим Ви, че ме приехте във форума и ако имате въпроси относно тези автобуси, мога да отговоря (особено за Dac и Roman автобуси).

Благодаря Ви,
Al

Emperor:
There are not many photos of DAC Chavdar trolleybuses as they weren't very successful and were quickly scrapped or sold to smaller towns.

Most photos that can be found are all in this page by Association "Public Transport & Infrastructure". Most of the historic photos have been gathered from this forum and put in one place, others are mine from the transportation of the last remaining DAC Chavdar. Trolleybus 118 has been bought and is awaiting future preservation.

 :arrow: http://trolleybus.bgtransport.org/dac-chavdar-317-etr-118/

castrosua:
I am aware of your flicker, Emperor. You are truly doing a great job, although I would love to see photos of the restoration (if you have started).

As far as photos, I have gathered a few of them, from all sorts of random topics, sometimes when the Dac (or Chavdar B13/14) are in the background. There are a few others on transira.org as well as tramclub.org when the E317ETr trolleybuses were brand new and displayed during several expos in Romania (true, they were not yet ETr, but just E317ET)

But you are correct. There are not many photos of them. I have gather most (if not all, except for some personal photos, but they are popping up on facebook). I have nearly 200k photos of Dac buses, of which maybe 150 or so are Dac-Chavdar. I wish I could post some, but I dont hold the rights to any of them.

тролей №164 линия 2:
Hi.
Following are forum posts, that you may find helpful. :arrow:
Post 1
Post 2
This topic
Post 3 for example in the topic from the above link.
A colorful one :)

IKAR:
By the way, do you have photos of the DAC articulated buses, that have been made in special, export versions, for tests in Germany and USA? They have been tested for several months by the potential clients, but no orders followed. Also there is a Roman truck-chassis based bus with two doors behind the front axle, intended for the third-world countries. No orders for it followed either and it also remained a single specimen.

Also it would be a good idea if you purchase the book about Chavdar buses, written by Ivan Kolev. It is in Bulgarian language only, however if you can read the forum, the book will be no problem for you. There are many photos that are not available online. Also, a good source is the book "East block buses" by Martin Harak, in Czech language, but if you read Russian, it will be understandable for you.


https://books.google.bg/books?id=cQuJAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA224&dq=Autobusy+a+trolejbusy+v%C3%BDchodn%C3%ADho+bloku&hl=bg&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://forum.gtsofia.info/index.php?topic=60.2340

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